ebaysucks
2006-02-15 12:02:09 UTC
This is just my opinion, do your own due diligence
buyers beware
My opinion is ebay and paypal is full of fraud . Repeat do not under any
circumstance give your checking account or credit card to these people. They
have figured a way to legitimize being taken to the cleaners. They will ,
can and do take your money out of your account automatically and you will be
left with : DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL . Whenever anyone uses that line DO
NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL , that should tell you, how often people needed to
do just that and for good reason and couldn't. That's just one tell tale
sign its not if, its when and for how much before your going to lose on a
transaction. In my estimation Ebay is full of fraud
Here is more in case you choose to use ebay or paypal and please listen
carefully
lots and lots of fees, before you know it, your goingto be taking a awful
beating and sabotaging the reason to use ebay in the first place ( sell
items with chance to get reasonable return)
When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item, what
auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. How
much
time do you have? Part of it is because ebay and paypal don't want to be
bothered , cause why should they , if your willing to spend hours doing it
for them, or if you decide to give up , they win .When I
complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie to
you ( swear to God paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
their backs and each representative tells you something different, and I
couldn't make this up even if I wanted to,)or
redirect you to another link. I am sure there are policies in place but
most
of it is just winging it. A large percent of auctions are for bad
merchandise to some extent or another, and you never are or often won't
get
your
money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
just
takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
middleman like a bookie
Finally don't ever and I repeat this with no uncertain emphasis, don't
ever
give paypal your checking account . They can and do automatically take out
funds from your account. The overall policies affecting complaints in my
view is based on loose interpretations of what happened. I don't believe
its
very objective but sometimes it can't be with the nature of the overall
process being what it is. I mean anything could be said, from sellers who
claim they didn't get their items back , to people who say its not the
same
item, to people say the seller did whatever and it could go on and on. At
some point, there is no way to determine who is right or wrong and this is
why more then anything else, the protection programs do not work. Its just
as possible to get ripped off by Paypal siding with scammers as it is with
them siding for what is right. It really does not matter sometimes to
Paypal
or ebay its all so subjective. I will repeat this you got to be able to
spot
the myriad of different frauds and tactics out there and paypal often
doesn't do a thing to remove sellers who sold bad merchandise. NOTONCE not
twice , not three times but often hundreds of times. And with these people
your suppose to defend your self each time and take out hours of your
life?
NOOO be prepared to have your money taken out of your account with no or
little recourse. I am repeat , in no way should you ever give paypal your
credit information or bank account. I learned the hard way..
On another Note You know who does the best on Ebay?
Here is more in case you choose to use ebay
lots and lots of fees
When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item, what
auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. When I
complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie to
you ( swear to god paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
their backs and each representative tells you something different,)or
redirect you to another link. A large percent of auctions are for bad
merchandise to some extent or another, and you never or often won't get your
money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often just
takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
middleman like a bookie
buyers beware
My opinion is ebay and paypal is full of fraud . Repeat do not under any
circumstance give your checking account or credit card to these people. They
have figured a way to legitimize being taken to the cleaners. They will ,
can and do take your money out of your account automatically and you will be
left with : DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL . Whenever anyone uses that line DO
NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL , that should tell you, how often people needed to
do just that and for good reason and couldn't. That's just one tell tale
sign its not if, its when and for how much before your going to lose on a
transaction. In my estimation Ebay is full of fraud
you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud and trust me
there are many things to look for and spot if you are going to risk
losing your money on a auction or transaction on Ebay or Paypal.
Even if you buy bad item like electronics and you use Paypal Buyer
Protection
your liable to have to get it checked out to prove its bad, depending on
a totally subjective process that may not be consistent, and so so far I
can't have
it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30 dollars
though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you read
small print and your automatically going to be out that if you complain
..so ultimately buyer is not protected after shipping even with
paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a bigger
chance of automatic loss because people who sell and defraud , don't care
what happens cause you have little recourse.
that's just the beginning of the rantsthere are many things to look for and spot if you are going to risk
losing your money on a auction or transaction on Ebay or Paypal.
Even if you buy bad item like electronics and you use Paypal Buyer
Protection
your liable to have to get it checked out to prove its bad, depending on
a totally subjective process that may not be consistent, and so so far I
can't have
it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30 dollars
though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you read
small print and your automatically going to be out that if you complain
..so ultimately buyer is not protected after shipping even with
paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a bigger
chance of automatic loss because people who sell and defraud , don't care
what happens cause you have little recourse.
Here is more in case you choose to use ebay or paypal and please listen
carefully
lots and lots of fees, before you know it, your goingto be taking a awful
beating and sabotaging the reason to use ebay in the first place ( sell
items with chance to get reasonable return)
When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item, what
auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. How
much
time do you have? Part of it is because ebay and paypal don't want to be
bothered , cause why should they , if your willing to spend hours doing it
for them, or if you decide to give up , they win .When I
complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie to
you ( swear to God paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
their backs and each representative tells you something different, and I
couldn't make this up even if I wanted to,)or
redirect you to another link. I am sure there are policies in place but
most
of it is just winging it. A large percent of auctions are for bad
merchandise to some extent or another, and you never are or often won't
get
your
money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often
just
takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
middleman like a bookie
Finally don't ever and I repeat this with no uncertain emphasis, don't
ever
give paypal your checking account . They can and do automatically take out
funds from your account. The overall policies affecting complaints in my
view is based on loose interpretations of what happened. I don't believe
its
very objective but sometimes it can't be with the nature of the overall
process being what it is. I mean anything could be said, from sellers who
claim they didn't get their items back , to people who say its not the
same
item, to people say the seller did whatever and it could go on and on. At
some point, there is no way to determine who is right or wrong and this is
why more then anything else, the protection programs do not work. Its just
as possible to get ripped off by Paypal siding with scammers as it is with
them siding for what is right. It really does not matter sometimes to
Paypal
or ebay its all so subjective. I will repeat this you got to be able to
spot
the myriad of different frauds and tactics out there and paypal often
doesn't do a thing to remove sellers who sold bad merchandise. NOTONCE not
twice , not three times but often hundreds of times. And with these people
your suppose to defend your self each time and take out hours of your
life?
NOOO be prepared to have your money taken out of your account with no or
little recourse. I am repeat , in no way should you ever give paypal your
credit information or bank account. I learned the hard way..
My complaints about ebay and paypal are these
there are many scam sellers who don't sell quality good based on their
descriptions
Unless your very knowledgably about examining every detail of item and
auction you can very easily be defrauded.
Ebay and Paypal does not make getting help or feedback easy. Paypal
protection for people who claim an item is a certain way is limited often
enough to making said person who got bad item making them pay to prove
it.
without paypal protection I got defrauded more times then not. Buyer
beware
and its happened more and more recently.. In my subjective view >> this
is a way for people to legally get away with fraud and pay pal has
actually lied to me , and
on
the phone which was not easy to find the number conveniently. What a
racket.
there are many scam sellers who don't sell quality good based on their
descriptions
Unless your very knowledgably about examining every detail of item and
auction you can very easily be defrauded.
Ebay and Paypal does not make getting help or feedback easy. Paypal
protection for people who claim an item is a certain way is limited often
enough to making said person who got bad item making them pay to prove
it.
without paypal protection I got defrauded more times then not. Buyer
beware
and its happened more and more recently.. In my subjective view >> this
is a way for people to legally get away with fraud and pay pal has
actually lied to me , and
on
the phone which was not easy to find the number conveniently. What a
racket.
You know who does the best? People who sell tickets to sports events who
could not do it legally in front of game or anywhere else. I am not
against them I am just
showing how ebay and paypal just let things happen that usually you
wouldn't have happen anywhere else in legal format and in the end you end
up losing .>>
that's just the beginning of the rantscould not do it legally in front of game or anywhere else. I am not
against them I am just
showing how ebay and paypal just let things happen that usually you
wouldn't have happen anywhere else in legal format and in the end you end
up losing .>>
lots and lots of fees
When buyer backs out, when auctions go bad, when you get a bad item, what
auction to bid on, how to get answers, is often a myriad of links. When I
complained to ebay or paypal they often do what lousy scammers do ; lie to
you ( swear to god paypal representatives just lie to you to get you off
their backs and each representative tells you something different,)or
redirect you to another link. A large percent of auctions are for bad
merchandise to some extent or another, and you never or often won't get your
money back unless you use paypal protection and even then paypal often just
takes the money out of sellers or buyers account after many many days.
Paypal really isn't guaranteeing anything and often just an uncaring
middleman like a bookie
for as long as I am online
Its full of fraud
you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud
Even if you buy bad item like electronics
your liable to have it checked out to prove its bad, so so far I can't
have it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
dollars though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you
read small print.so ultimately buyer is not protected after shipping even
with paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
bigger chance of automatic loss.
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Its full of fraud
you have to be able to spot all the techniques to spot fraud
Even if you buy bad item like electronics
your liable to have it checked out to prove its bad, so so far I can't
have it checked out for less then $40dollars. Assume it only costs $30
dollars though, Paypal certainly doesn't make this policy clear unless you
read small print.so ultimately buyer is not protected after shipping even
with paypal protection. Without paypal protection your even taking a
bigger chance of automatic loss.
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